How can we improve DL1608?

16 channel recording and playback.

Tittle says it all. How nice would it be to have a virtual sound check. If I play back all the tracks I could set main mix, monitor mix, eqs, etc. loved this with my presonus because I was able to set my band up and record some, then go out into the crowd hit playback and see what needs to be adjusted. It works much better than asking someone how it sounds. This is huge with presonus mixers.

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      • MarekMarek commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        What a pity to read, that this HW will not support 16 tracks recording.

        What about this idea: to unicast audio streams using the ethernet port to another comp and apropriate driver there ? It could be realizable with this HW or not ?

        And/Or 16x direct outs (analog only) should be very helpful too (instead of using external card with mic preamp)...

      • Richard LawrenceRichard Lawrence commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I have to defend Mackie on this request. The memory and processing required for simultaneous tracking would be huge. Right now I use an iso splitter and track 8 at once to my R-16. The DL can't be all things guys.

      • Scott McKennaScott McKenna commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This would be a great addition, but I'm not sure if it's a limitation that the hard ware can't handle, or software. It sure would be nice to be able to use this with Auria (iPad DAW), and have all 16 channels available. That'd be amazing!

      • Peter Jakob SchmidtPeter Jakob Schmidt commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Maybe i should be an extra app, maybe it should not. I would be awesome if you could record all tracks individually and make some smaller edits on the way home in the touring bus. The problem is, as mentioned before, that the stage sound itself often has quite an influence to the mix.
        If this is not possible, i could be cool if you could use it as an interface for the DAWs that already exist for iPad.

      • Jon BalslevJon Balslev commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        It would be nice to be able to record two aux outputs. If you play a gig with only mic on the kick, the mix you record from the mains will miss most of the drums. The same with other loud instruments on stage that is low in the main output. If you could record the aux, you could set up an overhead mic and maybe a snare mic and just send it to the recording aux. After a few tests you would be able to record a quick live demo.

      • Nick Lindsay Nick Lindsay commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        How about just changing the current software so that instead of recording the master out, you can record one of the aux mixes or a new, separate, stereo internal record bus?

        At least that could be monitored and mixed separately from the main outs and a stereo mix set up.

        At best, how about 4 channel recording - that way 2 channels could be for the band plus two for the vocals?

      • daniel lewisdaniel lewis commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I never thought of using it like that, but I still think that the stereo recording capability
        to be very helpful.
        I don't know why you couldn't record a couple of songs and then just change your mix after you listen out front,(bring up or down what ever was sticking out, that is if you get that kind of time at a gig!
        The thing is once the real crowd gets there, the room sound changes and the band plays louder anyway, which changes the mix.
        I would be cool to have no doubt but if it's not possible with this hardware, the
        suggestions at the top would be good.

      • sonchosoncho commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        It is from Japan.
        Since English is translation software, please allow, if expression is wrong.
        It will be the highest, if 16 channels, LR, and 6AUX are multitrack and can record as your opinion.
        Although it still becomes somehow at the time of work of only recording, since AUX is used for a monitor at the time of the live, it hopes that it is multitrack and recording is possible.

      • Vladan VukovicVladan Vukovic commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        First time I saw that Mackie introduced dl1608 I immediately decided to sell my new Onix 1640i. dl 1608 looks like one light year away from everything else. And it is. I expect that in the future there will be no guitar amplifiers, bass amplifiers, processors etc. There will be only a cabinets, PA amplifiers and iPad applications.
        After a few days I understand that the dl1608 is great for live applications but it is useless for my studio. If I want to replace my Onix 1640i with something else I need to by: 1 x dl1608, 1 x iPad, 1 x wireless router and 2 x Onix Blackbird and I still don't have 16 x recording/play back channel in the same time.
        Also I spend a lot of days wondering how to put dl1608 and wireless router in the same rack case. It would be very nice if the wireless router is inside the body of the dl1608 or somehow connected to this. There is enough space before you reach 19".
        In the future just put the Onix 1640i inside the body of the dl1608 and everything will be fine.
        P.S. My english is not very well but I hope You got the idea.

      • ZipZip commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I've been told it would require an entire hardware change. This mixer has been in development for years and the bandwidth, architecture, needs were not viable at the time.
        Ipad 1's were the staple then..
        I may be mistaken.. but hitting the pricepoint, delivery date.. it wasnt an option.
        Now that behringer has developed a multitrack version of this mixer called the "X-16" I wouldnt
        be surprised if a updated chassis version is not far behind..

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        This idea is sorta cool on paper, but in the real world not so much. Play back of the band does not take into account stage volume from amps live drums ect. Everyone knows that small to medium venues have to blend house and stage volumes to get a good mix in the room. This is just not possible from play back alone. I'm definitely not voting for this. Ben says its not possible, I say its not really helpful even if it was possible.

      • Richie Moscola Richie Moscola commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I would love this.. i just assume this has to do with storage of the files taking up too much space on the ipad...

      • Simon DumpletonSimon Dumpleton commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Would it not be possible to add a FireWire / USB connection after the channel gains so that a laptop could be connected for multitrack recording and playback purposes, just as with the Onyx range of mixers? This way, recording and live mixing can be independent of each other but recordings could also be made for sound check purposes.

      • Sam SpoonsSam Spoons commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Yup, I've removed my vote so I can use it on something that's possible :-)

      • PopsPops commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Boo. Ben says this is not possible. So I guess we can all stop voting for it.

      • PopsPops commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I realized that to walk the room for virtual sound checks after you record all the channels you would need a second iPad. The one that did the recording would need to remain docked. But regardless the 16 channel recorder would be awesome. The DL would be a mixer and multitrack recorder in one.

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