16 channel recording and playback.
Tittle says it all. How nice would it be to have a virtual sound check. If I play back all the tracks I could set main mix, monitor mix, eqs, etc. loved this with my presonus because I was able to set my band up and record some, then go out into the crowd hit playback and see what needs to be adjusted. It works much better than asking someone how it sounds. This is huge with presonus mixers.
DL32R adds multichannel recording and playback
Adminbeno (Admin, Mackie) commented
@Reshef I answered this in October 2012, only one month after the product shipped. I'm sorry you didn't see that but if you scroll back, it is there.
No the hardware cannot support more than 2 channels of recording and playback to the iPad.
The DL32R seems like an awesome mixer, but... it's a whole different hardware.
The title of this discussion is "How can we improve DL1608".
So I humbly ask again - Can you improve the DL1608 so it will support 16 channel recording and playback?
Can we, your loyal customers, once and for all get a straight honest answer?
How hard is it to just answer either:
- Yes, the hardware support it, the software... not yet.."
- No, we planned the hardware to support only 2 channels. don't wast your time"
Adminbeno (Admin, Mackie) commented
The DL32R supports 24x24 direct to a connected USB2 hard drive. There is no computer needed. The recording time is simply limited by the size of the hard drive you connect.
Question for the admin: I see sound check recording and playback, but I'd like a little more detail. Is it possible to record all 32 tracks? What does "direct to disk" mean, exactly. What is the medium for the disk? And what is the overall recording capacity in terms of hours? Thank you.
Yet, does anyone have a definite answer to the question whether it's the hardware that can't multitrack record or just the MasterFader software?
There are several DAW Apps that support multitrack recording.
I figured I can control the DL1608 with a wireless iPad while a second, wired iPad, uses the DL1608 as an audio interface. the big question is - can the DL1608 deliver individual tracks via the USB interface?
I've already checked Cubasis with no success and now considering a test on Presonus' Capture for iPad.
Any comments? :-)
Hopefully the new 32 channel one (being announced 10/15) will have multi-track recording (or streaming to computer) ability!!! If not, I am going to cry, punch someone, and/or slam my head against a brick wall until they fix this....
Juan C Pacheco commented
just buy a DL1608 and are very satisfied with its sound and ease of use, as has been discussed that could be great multitrack recording, hopefully Mackie surprised us with this console.
Even just the 16 channels post a-d sent to the LAN would be useful.
That opens the door for 16 channel recording + network based monitoring duities.
Wish we had some news on this....kinda bummed that this hasn't happened yet. I'm going to have to get an Allen & Heath soon but a big part of me wishes that Mackie would just come out with their own digital mixer with a few more outputs and multi-track recording. They have done such a great job making the iPad app super easy to use while still being powerful, and it's really cool how responsive they've been to user requests with the app updates...I realize multitrack recording may not be possible with the current hardware, but dang I wish they would just come out with the "big brother" to the DL1608 sometime soon...like now...maybe we'll hear something at Summer NAMM?? Hoping...
Ok I like the idea. If it can be done with this hardware. Other wise a 3 rd party second unit might be best .
WAVEMACHINELABS AURIA COULD DO WITH JUST A IDEA
I just want to see the waveform being recorded with the ability to playback from the Master Fader app. Is that too much to ask?
Well if it is true that it can't be done with this hardware, then here's a +1 vote for Mackie to come out with a 24-channel that does record (or at least usb stream) all 24 channels! (Or at least an updated DL1608 with 16-channel usb streaming to laptop.) Lower roundtrip latency in the mixer itself would be awesome too...
Braden Pletzer commented
16 channel recording to even USB shouldn't be asking too much. Then we could record straight to our laptops/mac books. Of course the current hardware may not support this addition. We all may have to wait for the next hardware update. Can you say 2014? Hopefully!!!
Larz Hanson commented
Mackie tech may need to back me up here, but as I've read, the Ethernet connection carries only control signals...no audio...and can't be adapted to do so. Really, the DL was designed to do bare-bones live mixing in an extremely slick, modern way. It fills a niche for users who want a compact, highly capable mixer to run basic sound and offer simplified wireless capability. It was never intended to be a do-all digital mixer.
On the other hand, Mackie has used the DL project to develop a very user-friendly interface for the iPad, better than pretty much any other manufacturer's, and maybe they have new tricks up their sleeves that we haven't seen yet. Perhaps a new 24-channel DL console that takes their success with Master Fader and blends it with newer iOS capabilities? We'll see...
What about adding an external box, as a networked device, that contained a hard drive and processing to achieve 16 channel recording? This way, an additional recording app could be developed and controlled from the IPad. The DL would simply act as a interface for connections.
Then you could just run the 2 apps simultaneously while running sound and recording, switching views when required. Seems like a simple and cheap solution even a third party could do... Hmmm...
Mitch Nicholson commented
Mackie created one hell of a live mixer, the best I've used yet. Throwing dreams of adding a 16 track recording interface into the mix is just useless..I'm actually surprised that they even allowed the stereo recording of the mains!
Keep your sl16.0.2 comments to yourself until presonus makes an app as half as good as master fader.
Larz Hanson commented
Ain't gonna happen with the DL1608 or DL806, y'all, so you might as well take your votes back off this subject. Unless Mackie comes out with a new hardware chassis, the current models were designed when iOS4 was the standard, and that system only allowed 2x2 audio streams in and out of the iPad. Behringer benefited from ripping off Mackie's design after iOS5 came along, but hey...it's Behringer. Could be gold, or it could be a turd...gotta lay down your money first to find out. Sounds a little too much like ObamaCare, so I'll stick with Mackie. As for PreSonus, I own an SL1642, and they're about to release the updated "AI" versions. The PreSonus boards are actually really nice, but their iPad app isn't nearly as smooth or fun to use as my DL1608. For now, if I just want to do quick, easy, fun mixing, I take the Mackie. If I want to record multitrack performances, I take the PreSonus (and my Mac Mini).
I agree it isn't really needed for virtual soundcheck (unless you are mixing yourself and don't have a looper), HOWEVER obviously we all want the ability to capture our live shows in multi-track format rather than being stuck with a 2-track mix. PreSonus and Behringer already offer this, but I like the Mackie so much...really hope they add this extremely important feature soon!
(Or better yet, come out with a new, lower-latency 24-channel mixer with remote controlled digital input trim, subgroups, another stereo pair of auxes, parametric eq on all outputs, high quality lexicon reverb, and 24-channel recording via a thunderbolt port...I'd pay $3,000 or $4,000 if I had to...)
Apart from Anonymous' comment on blending house and stage volume, which is completely correct: wasn't the idea of a wireless mixer not exactly this: being able to mix live sound from anywhere in the venue, walking around whilst ringing out your monitors, etc? We do a live soundcheck, with one iPad2 for FOH and 2 iPads2 and an iPhone for inearmonitors on stage. Takes us about 20 minutes from a basic setup to get a well tuned sound for every place we play. You're asking for a solution for a problem that needs not to be solved. So stop dreaming, cos Ben says no.